29 Dec2015

Ons lees die boek Job van 12 Januarie af

Ek het my voorbereiding vir die boek Job klaargemaak:

Job-in-Despair – van “Drawings-for-the-Bible” deur Marc Chagall gepubliseer deur Verve.

Ek is getref deur Job se deurbreking van ‘n eenvoudige oorsaak-en-gevolg teologie. God se wêreld is meer kompleks as dit.
Ek is getref deur die antwoord op die vraag na regverdigheid – kan ‘n mens staatmaak daarop dat dinge reg uitwerk? In ‘n ontmoeting met God lê insig en lotsverandering opgesluit.
Ek is getref deur die vraag na vroomheid – sal ‘n mens lojaal bly aan God al gebeur wat ook al met jou? Ek is geïnspireer deur Job se voorbeeld van volharding in alles, en sy gebed wat God se toekoms vir ander oopsluit.

Ek begin 12 Januarie met die plasing van die inleidende bydraes en eindig met hfst. 42 op 16 Maart DV. Die eerste byeenkoms vir saamgesels oor die boek Job in NGK Somerstrand is 13 Januarie 18:00.

Daar is soos altyd ook opsies vir kleingroepe en gemeente Bybelskole. Jy kan hier registreer om die bydraes in jou Inbox te kry. Dit is gratis.

12 Jan2016

Inleiding op die boek Job

Written by Chris van Wyk. Posted in Job

Job-in-Despair – van “Drawings-for-the-Bible” deur Marc Chagall gepubliseer deur Verve.

Die verhaal van Job vind waarskynlik plaas in die tyd van die patriarge, Abraham, Isak en Jakob, soos uit die plekname en gebruike in die boek afgelei kan word. Die boek het waarskynlik eers later tot stand gekom.

Job was egter nie ‘n Israeliet nie, maar van die land Us, ‘n gebied wat óf met die Arameërs in die Noord-ooste (Gen. 10:23; 22:21) óf met die Edomiete (Gen. 36:28) in die Ooste van Israel af verbind word.

Job se vriende was ook nie Israeliete nie. Elifas was van Teman, ‘n naam wat ook met die Edomiete geassosieer word (Gen. 36:11). Teman was bekend vir wysheid (Jer. 49:7). Bildad was van Suag, ‘n naam wat ook met een van Abraham se seuns geassosieer word (Gen. 25:2). Sofar was van Naäma, ‘n naam wat met die nageslag van Kain geassossieer word (Gen. 4:22) sowel as met ‘n stad in Kanaän (Jos. 15:41). Dit is ook die naam van Rehabeam se ma, ‘n Ammonitiese vrou (1 Kon. 14:21).

12 Jan2016

Die boodskap van Job

Written by Chris van Wyk. Posted in Job

Job-in-Despair – van “Drawings-for-the-Bible” deur Marc Chagall gepubliseer deur Verve.

Die boek van Job het soveel komplekse perspektiewe op menswees en ons interaksie met die geestelike wêreld dat dit baie moeilik is om die boodskap daarvan te reduseer tot ‘n enkelvoudige punt wat vir almal sal sin maak.

Dat dit oor lyding gaan, en spesifiek die lyding van onskuldiges en regverdiges, is só. Dat dit gaan oor die morele orde van die wêreld (Clines), en óf ‘n mens kan staatmaak op die wetmatigheid van oorsaak en gevolg, is ook só.

Maar, hoe meer ‘n mens jou blootstel aan wat die tallose mense deur die eeue oor die boek geskryf het, hoe versigtiger word ‘n mens om jou eie bydrae te verwoord, veral omdat dit so maklik die boodskap van die boek kan verduister en eerder jou eie perspektief op die lewe kan weergee.

Dit is veral moeilik om deur die gespreksrondtes van Job met sy drie vriende te werk en die kaf van die koring te skei in terme van wat uiteindelik waar en navolgingswaardig is en wat nie.

Chris van Wyk

Jul 26, 2021 | #

Tate haal Mayer aan wat ‘n Babiloniese gebed aanhaal om die Psalm se betekenis te verklaar: “I call to you from distantness; hear me from nearness.” In Duits: “Ich rufe dich von ferne, höre mich von nahe.” Hier is Tate se volledige verduideliking van die betekenis van die Psalm.

The main value of this psalm probably lies in its metaphorical richness. The metaphors of the high rock, the strong tower, the perpetual dwelling in the tent of God, and the shelter under the divine wings enhance the prayer and contribute significantly to our repertoire of spiritual imagination. A well-stocked and fertile imagination is essential for spiritual strength, a strength that influences the whole being of the person and/or group that possesses it. The metaphors assist us to incorporate our own experience into the experience of prayer. Prayer should engage imagination both toward the one praying and toward God. The metaphors of the psalm pass into our own experience and expand our horizons. Walter Brueggemann has written of the Psalms:

The Psalms do not insist that we follow word for word and line by line, but they intend us to have great freedom to engage our imagination toward the Holy God.… We will take liberties as the Psalm passes by and moves out into the richness of our experience and then back into the awesome presence of God. That is the way of metaphor (Praying the Psalms [Winona, MN: Saint Mary’s Press, 1982], 35).

Without a good stock of metaphors and an active imagination, our prayers are crippled and reduced to flattened, formulaic expressions without much power.
Perhaps the dominant metaphor in the psalm is that of distance from God in v 3. A sense of far-awayness from the divine presence, an at-the-end-of the earth experience, seems to be endemic to the spiritual life from time to time (see, e.g., Pss 2:1; 10:1; 22:2, 12, 20; 35:22; 38:22 [21]; 71:12). Indeed, it is almost a continuous need: “The psalmist is here describing the human condition in existentialist terms: man constantly stands at the edge of the abyss, and only divine assistance can prevent his falling into it” (Dahood, II, 84). Werner R. Mayer discusses a provocative Babylonian prayer formula which says, “I call to you from distantness; hear me from nearness” (“ ‘Ich rufe dich von ferne, höre mich von nahe,’ ” 302–17). The formula seems to mean that prayer suspends the distantness between the supplicant and the deity. Breaking down a perceived distance and the creation of sense of nearness and presence is a major function of prayer. The Psalms are of great importance in the recognition of distantness, which results from various kinds of stress and distress, and in the closing of that gap, which threatens spiritual health and even life itself. The very recitation of psalms like 61 serves to diminish distance and enhance nearness and presence.

Tate, M.E., 1998. Psalms 51–100, Dallas: Word, Incorporated.

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Chris van Wyk

Jul 26, 2021 | #

Dankie.
Chris van Wyk

Jul 26, 2021 | #

Hi Loretta – jy is welkom. Jy kan by hierdie webtuiste inteken (https://bybelskool.com/subscribe/) of vir my jou selnommer stuur, dan stuur ek vir jou die bydraes per Whatsapp (Chris van Wyk – nul agt twee 574 9191).
Chris van Wyk

Jul 26, 2021 | #

Tate haal Mayer aan wat ‘n Babiloniese gebed aanhaal om die Psalm se betekenis te verklaar: “I call to you from distantness; hear me from nearness.” In Duits: “Ich rufe dich von ferne, höre mich von nahe.” Hier is Tate se volledige verduideliking van die betekenis van die Psalm.

The main value of this psalm probably lies in its metaphorical richness. The metaphors of the high rock, the strong tower, the perpetual dwelling in the tent of God, and the shelter under the divine wings enhance the prayer and contribute significantly to our repertoire of spiritual imagination. A well-stocked and fertile imagination is essential for spiritual strength, a strength that influences the whole being of the person and/or group that possesses it. The metaphors assist us to incorporate our own experience into the experience of prayer. Prayer should engage imagination both toward the one praying and toward God. The metaphors of the psalm pass into our own experience and expand our horizons. Walter Brueggemann has written of the Psalms:

The Psalms do not insist that we follow word for word and line by line, but they intend us to have great freedom to engage our imagination toward the Holy God.… We will take liberties as the Psalm passes by and moves out into the richness of our experience and then back into the awesome presence of God. That is the way of metaphor (Praying the Psalms [Winona, MN: Saint Mary’s Press, 1982], 35).

Without a good stock of metaphors and an active imagination, our prayers are crippled and reduced to flattened, formulaic expressions without much power.
Perhaps the dominant metaphor in the psalm is that of distance from God in v 3. A sense of far-awayness from the divine presence, an at-the-end-of the earth experience, seems to be endemic to the spiritual life from time to time (see, e.g., Pss 2:1; 10:1; 22:2, 12, 20; 35:22; 38:22 [21]; 71:12). Indeed, it is almost a continuous need: “The psalmist is here describing the human condition in existentialist terms: man constantly stands at the edge of the abyss, and only divine assistance can prevent his falling into it” (Dahood, II, 84). Werner R. Mayer discusses a provocative Babylonian prayer formula which says, “I call to you from distantness; hear me from nearness” (“ ‘Ich rufe dich von ferne, höre mich von nahe,’ ” 302–17). The formula seems to mean that prayer suspends the distantness between the supplicant and the deity. Breaking down a perceived distance and the creation of sense of nearness and presence is a major function of prayer. The Psalms are of great importance in the recognition of distantness, which results from various kinds of stress and distress, and in the closing of that gap, which threatens spiritual health and even life itself. The very recitation of psalms like 61 serves to diminish distance and enhance nearness and presence.

Tate, M.E., 1998. Psalms 51–100, Dallas: Word, Incorporated.
Hester von Wielligh

Jul 24, 2021 | #

Goeiedag!
Ek het die stuk oor ps 61 met waardering gelees. Wat is die Engels van die volgende aanhaling? “Ek bid tot U van ver, hoor my van naby.” (Tate, Word Biblical Commentary, Psalm 51-100)
Ek wil dit graag verder ondersoek.
Baie dankie en seën.
Loretta Pienaar

Jul 23, 2021 | #

Goeiemôre Ds van Wyk, ek sal dit baie waardeer as ek u boodskappe kan ontvang. Alhoewel ek boodskappe kry van ander Godvresende leraars, kan ek nooit genoeg kry nie in hierdie tye. Ek is geensins ondankbaar nie, maar te dikwels blyk dit dat mense nie gretig is om oor God te praat nie, of soms blyk dit dat hulle nie omgee nie. God seën u en u geliefdes.
Jan

Jul 20, 2021 | #

Geestelike leesstof dankie.
Chris van Wyk

Jul 16, 2021 | #

Die woord wegraping kom nie in die Bybel voor nie. Dit is ‘n afleiding wat gemaak word op grond van die beskrywing van Jesus se hemelvaart en ons ontmoeting met Hom in 1 Tessalonisense 4.
Chris van Wyk

Jul 16, 2021 | #

Hi, jy kan kyk wat ek geskryf het by week 80-84 van Prontuit die Waarheid (https://bybelskool.com/prontuit-die-waarheid-argief/).
Past C Tities

Jul 13, 2021 | #

Pastoor ek soek graag Meer inligting oor rampe veral geestelik

Dankie vir u wonderlik ervaring wat u met andere deel
Milana Van Rooyen

Jul 11, 2021 | #

Goeie dag

Waar in bybel staan die woord wegraping …
Skrif asb
Dankie
Millanie

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